Your furnace will automatically try again after an hour of lockout. I did check the voltage and the max voltage I get to the ignitor is 7.6 vac. I have tested both hot surface igniters on the other unit and they both work (both glow). After the cleaning job, I reinstalled everything back but then the furnace and the thermostat had lost power. Your furnace should run without going off on limit. Steve. Steve. You should have 24 to 28 volts AC between R and C. If you do not then you have a low voltage problem which could very well be a low voltage transformer that is burnt out. Then the sequence starts all over again with no ignition of the gas. Thanks! We Provide Fast UPS Shipping! This means the furnace locked itself out because it tried to ignite three times and could not do so. Normal click(s) and the blower but no lighting takes place. LP gas can be temperamental at ignition. Have issue today with ignitor on a Rheem criterion. If the air in your system is not flowing it cannot produce the required gas/air mixture and your home heating system will not ignite because of it. I would suggest checking all safety control with a volt meter and pressing down on the reset buttons (if equipped) on every rollout switch. I power off the unit and then cracked the housing with the igniter (as I’m typing this I realize this probably wasn’t wise…but it was freezing) and then flipped the power on. If they’re okay, I should have a new board by Thursday morning. If the flame sensor does not detect a flame, the co... ntrol board will shut off voltage to the gas valve to prevent the furnace from heating. The gas heat should come on by joining the red and white wires together. David, Hi David! This is what I see in the furnace sequence of operation: 3. I would suggest that you call a company that has a good reputation with working on and fixing LP gas furnaces. Another thought would be to make sure that if your thermostat has batteries, make sure the batteries are in good condition. The main blower coming on before heat concerns me also. I tightened all the breaker screws and we have not had any problems. Steve. I hope you can easily find and fix the problem. If it is and you’re not receiving gas, you will need to call a plumber to address the issue. Whether you need furnace ignitors, AprilAire filters, EZ Flex filters, or another kind of HVAC merchandise, we want to serve you. I had just replaced the ignitor last winter and I assume that the pressure switch that caused the ignitor to work erratic was why the ignitor failed so soon. God Bless and Merry Christmas! Loose Cable On The Thermostat In case the thermostat has got a digital display panel which is blinking, it might be because of a loose cable. I checked the voltage to the plug connection and it reads 116 volts once the inducer fan and pressure switches are activated. Is this likely to mean I need a new control board? It sounds like your gas air mixture is not right since it is burning yellow. Thank you, Hi Mauro! Step 8: Furnace Won’t Turn On – Check Your Ignition Sensor. I’m handy enough to replace a control board but would like to avoid it. Gas supply problem. If you have a condensing furnace that turns on for longer than five seconds but shuts off again before reaching the right temperature, then you may have a plugged condensate drain. If your pilot light will not come on after cleaning the furnace, check your gas or propane supply as a final step to find out why your furnace will not start. If your furnace has a pilot light that tries to ignite but goes out instead, you may have a problem with the pilot light hardware or sensors. Also it appears the vent motor is spinning. You help would be greatly appreciated. God bless you all! So sorry to hear you are having this trouble and a run around between the propane company and furnace man. If your furnace is going off on limit then I would suggest adjusting the gas pressure down a little until you get proper smooth ignition with the furnace not going off on limit. Step 7: Check the Gas. We offer same-day shipping on most products, so you won’t have to do without the goods you need for long. I hope you can easily find and fix the problem. Follow these steps to fix a gas furnace that won’t ignite: Ensure the furnace filter is clean—if not, replace the dirty filter with a clean filter. It appears that it bypasses the igniting sequence all together. Your email address will not be published. Turn the power by on to your furnace. The part number for the DSI is 43K3101. Where would you start replacing parts or would you troubleshoot further. The furnace had worked fine an hour before I started this cleaning job. Sorry, I do not have any more recommendations. You Can Search Our Site for More Troubleshooting Problems, Heating, Air Conditioning Parts and Supplies in the Google Seach box below. The ignitor never glows, it goes through the start up sequence but the ignitor never kicks on. I do not think that I would be stumped if I was able to trace down with a voltmeter why your furnace will not run. I’ve replaced the ignitor and the flame sensor. I have a new ignitor and it’s glowing intermittently. If you use a wet vac to clean the drain on the furnace please make sure the pressure switch is disconnected so the negative pressure from the vac does not damage the pressure switch. You would need to test with a voltmeter to see where you stop getting the 24 volts. Since there are many different types of gas furnaces, it is difficult to cover every single possible gas furnace problem that can occur with a gas furnace in one article. Steve. It is very quiet. You can bypass the thermostat by turning the power off to the furnace then joining the R and W wires together with tape or twist them together. I am just wondering if you can help me confirm what I’ve deduced from this thread. Check to make sure the gas control valve to the furnace is open. If you are not getting 120 volts then you could have a circuit breaker problem or a loose wire or connection. If you are not then I would suggest looking to make sure that all the rollouts are closed. Sure enough this time the igniter lit up and lit the furnace on its own. Everything appears to be in working condition except for the fact that the igniter will not glow yet the unit still goes into normal operation as if a flame is present.This is a Amana 80 SSE IIQ Air Command Gas Furnace. A dirty or clogged pilot ignitor can prevent the furnace from igniting properly. Please make sure all connections on the control board are tight. Electric furnaces. Please send me your furnace model number if you would like for me to look it up and see which ignitor or parts your furnace uses. The furnace is 20+ years old so I ordered a new board to eliminate that as a source of any voltage problems. If you want me to look up parts please send your furnace model number to our email address arnoldservice@gmail.com. There are a number of other potential causes as well, such as faulty gas valves and control board faults, but these cannot be easily diagnosed except by professionals. The furnace circulates the air it warms through the house by means of a fan. Check fuses and the circuit breaker to ensure that power is getting to the furnace. It had no power at that time too. Sorry that I can not be of more help or give you any other advice. I hope you can easily find and fix the problem. This is probably the most helpful site I have found for diagnosing furnace problems. Outside Air in the Mix. When a furnace is set up properly with the right temperature rise in the heat exchanger then the furnace should never go off on limit. If your thermostat has batteries make sure they are good. I hope you can easily find and fix the problem. Hi Steve, Thank you again. You can use an ohm meter to check the ignitor to make sure it is good. Thanks! Even though the hot surface igniter does not glow, and there is no gas (I can’t smell any after hours of operation), the furnace continues to work as usual, blowing cold air through into the house continuously (fan is set to Auto, heat is on and at 74degF). If you need for me to look up parts please send me your furnace’s model number. Please send your model number to our email address at arnoldservice@gmail.com. Steve. Once the thermostat reads enough warmth, it shuts off, leaving the rest of the house too cold. You should get 24 to 28 volts AC between each of the two terminals on the rollout or limit to ground. After checking all the systems, I decided to look into the IFC. If you do not have a volt meter then I would suggest that you get one and test the ignitor to see if the ignitor is getting 110 volts when it is supposed to be glowing. The furnace will even lock down in this instance for safety measures. I am sorry that I can not make a recommendation because it takes special tools to get the gas/air mixture right on an LP furnace. We have lots of furnace troubleshooting advice on the following page: https://arnoldservice.com/gas-electric-furnace-troubleshooting-simplified-2/ I would suggest going through the troubleshooting flow chart to see what is wrong: https://arnoldservice.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/furnace-troubleshooting-flow-chart.pdf We also have lots of troubleshooting questions and answers on the following page: https://arnoldservice.com/furnace-troubleshooting-questions-answers-index/ If you have any specific questions please let me know. I am guessing that when the load of the ignitor is applied that the contacts inside the ignitor relay on the control board are pitted and bad thus the ignitor can not get enough current to glow. Do this: Turn off your furnace at the thermostat, and check the furnace filter. Yes, it sounds like you have a pressure switch problem or something is obstructing the vent or condensate drain on the furnace. If the flame sensor does not detect a flame, as a safety precaution, the control board will shut off power to the gas valve to prevent the furnace from heating. I cleaned the ignitor when it was doing this a few weeks ago and it started immediately. Hope you have a great day and weekend! I assume that your draft inducer is running but the ignitor will not glow. It will not hurt anything to leave the combustion air vent pipe loose until it warms up. What am I missing here. Please click here to go to our furnace limits and rollouts page. I checked in our Trane parts program. I can jump the switch and it has no power to the switch, all the fans remain on, (blowing cold air). If the voltage varies then this is probably a control board problem. I would ohm out the ignitor and make sure it is between 40 and 90 ohms. If your furnace is not keeping your house at the temperature to which you set it, then you have a problem somewhere in your heating system. I decided to disconnect the plug from the IFC to see if I was getting any power, and when I turned on the furnace and checked, I got nothing. Seems to be popular. If it’s not, there’s little chance the fuel will ever reach the burners. He has written advertisements, book and video game reviews, technical articles and thesis papers. I would suggest making sure that the limit, rollouts and pressure switch is closed when the draft inducer is on and when the thermostat is calling for heat to be ON. My furnace is not getting fuel. Having a furnace that is too big for your house can also be a problem. Hope you have a great day! We are looking forward to doing business with you in the future! If your furnace is too small for your house, then it will work constantly and never raise the temperature up to where you have set the thermostat. At least I eliminated the fuse factor. Recently installed new flame sensor and igniter. If your furnace is going off on limit I would suggest making sure that the blower motor capacitor is in good condition, make sure that your evaporator AC coil is not stopped up on the underside, make sure that your gas valve pressure is adjusted properly to produce the furnace recommended temperature rise. He started working with Mechanical Turk and then started contracting with individuals and companies directly via the Web. It shows no power at all. If your furnace is going off on limit you might have an airflow problem like a dirty filter, dirty blower, slow blower motor (might need a new capacitor) stopped up evaporator coil or too much gas pressure. When I look through the view port during one of these failed cycles I see the igniter glow for a couple of seconds and then go off. URGENT. Since you ignitor has such a low resistance then I do not know really what to think. I was working on a Trane unit model number TUH2B080A9V3VA, and the hot surface igniter is not glowing. Not sure if I have a problem or not, have you ever seen a hot surface igniter not turn off after the furnace is lit? My house is cold and have 4 kids. After starting the furnace up after the ignitor replacement I see and hear the ignitor not making good contact with some control on the furnace making some weird noises. If it is not working either, then you’ve found your problem and it’s time to call the gas company or get the propane tank filled. The fan motor comes on immediately instead of the system going thru the normal process. Remember each time, a new limit switch solves the problem for 3 weeks. I have not found a furnace that has stumped me yet. The furnace hot surface ignitor does not glow. I have a problem. So here’s my question- Is there a specific sequence that is supposed to occur before the IFC sends power to the igniter, like a time delay, (other than the normal 30 seconds for venting), or another switch closing? Thank you for all of this information. I hope you find and fix the problem soon! Could it be the contro board or is it possible that it is the igniter? Before you spend money on repair professionals, try to diagnose the problem yourself so that you have a better idea of what kind of help you need. What do you think is wrong. Here is a link to that page: https://arnoldserv.wpengine.com/gas-electric-furnace-troubleshooting-simplified-2/ I hope you can easily find and fix the problem. I am very happy to hear you found the problem and got it fixed! You might smell some gas. If you are looking for an HVAC products supplier that will treat you the way you should be treated, turn to us. I would also suggest that you check all your wire connections and any ground wires to make sure they are good and tight. So very glad to hear that you found and fixed the problem!Yes, that limit switch on the blower is sometimes hard to see and find. If not then you have an open rollout or limit. Please send the model number to our email address: arnoldservice@gmail.com. Your gas- or oil-burning furnace must receive fuel to work. However, gas-fired boilers are fairly reliable and when problems do occur, they are usually related to the expansion tank or water circulation pump(s). Steve. I hope you can get your furnace fixed and going soon! If your furnace’s temperature rise is correct based on the manufacturer’s recommendations then the limit should never go off unless you have an emergency part failure like a blower motor failure or an airflow failure like a stopped up dirty filter. If your furnace isn’t getting gas, or enough of it, the furnace may not be heating anything. God bless you and your family. Since thermostat gets power from the furnace circuitry, I guess until I resolve the ground short in the furnace it would remain blank. Steve. Any input or advise will be highly appreciated. I hope you can easily find and fix the problem. Hi Victor! I checked the pressure switch and I cleaned the igniter. This sounds like a control board problem, but you say that you replaced the board and it did not solve the problem. Why would i not be getting the vacuum to close the pressure switch? It was trying to start over and over, but almost never would ignite (I say “almost” because occasionally it actually it would – maybe once in 30 to 40 attempts). All the wiring connections seem tight. I am getting a fault 34. Possible causes: The furnace could need resetting. I hope you can easily find and fix the problem. Please email me at the arnoldservice@gmail.com email address and I will be glad to look part up. Noticed ignitor begins to glow for a few seconds and stops and about a minute later attempts to get warm again. If your furnace lights and the gas stays on for 8 to 10 seconds, then shuts right back off, then you can try to clean your flame sensor with light sand paper (emery cloth) or steel wool. If you want me to look up parts please send me the model number of your furnace to our email address: arnoldservice@gmail.com. Steve. If these are all closed and you are not getting 110 volts to the ignitor it almost has to be the control board. Not Enough Gas. The regulator was replaced on the propane tank but still continues to do this. You could also have a control board problem that is not allowing current to the limit. So glad you found and fixed the problem! I hope you can easily find and fix the problem. Your furnace shuts down and goes into a lock out condition until you turn your power switch back off and on again. I have replaced the ignitor, the capacitor and the gas valve (2 years ago). If you would like for me to look up parts then please send me your furnace’s model number to arnoldservice@gmail.com and I will try to look up parts. With a gas-fired furnace, be sure the valve on the gas pipe is turned on (the lug or handle should be in line with the gas pipe). The 3amp fuse looked fine, didn’t see any burn mark on it when I took it out to check. Thanks for providing an update, Peter! The problem of not shutting off could be anything from a short in the thermostat wires to a bad gas valve so its best to let a qualified technician troubleshoot and repair. This is commonly caused by a blockage in the fuel line or an air bubble. =(, Hi Patrick! Voltage at the ignitor is 10-12V AC. Resetting it with the main electrical switch doesn’t get it to power the ignitor, so it’s probably not the limit switch, either. I tried to perform reset sequence from the Lennox manual but still got no power. When his unit is not actively engaged the gas furnace will not function because the door is not fully shut. If you are getting 24 volts to the gas valve and it is not opening up to allow gas to flow then you probably have a bad gas valve. I have cleaned the flame sensor, and replaced the hot surface ignitor and I am still getting a fault 34. If the furnace still … A pressure switch that is not closing could also be the problem. A furnace doesn't heat all the air in the house -- it just heats the air that the ducts bring to it. The condensate pump reservoir might be full instead. I’ve checked the filter (new as of two weeks ago) and it’s clear. If all of those check out good then it almost has to be a control board. We have a couple of posts with Youtube videos that I hope will help you out on the following pages: https://arnoldservice.com/problem-my-furnaces-ignitor-does-not-glow-this-could-be-a-pressure-switch-limit-roll-out-switch-or-furnace-control-board-problem/ and also on the following page: https://arnoldservice.com/problem-i-purchased-a-flame-sensor-from-you-for-my-goodman-furnace-the-new-flame-sensor-did-not-fix-the-problem-my-furnace-still-lights-for-7-to-10-seconds-and-then-the-gas-goes-out-what-could-be/ In the YouTube video it shows how to test a flame sensor. Your furnace wiring schematic should show any fuses. You can test the ignitor with an ohm meter to see if it is good or not. It doesn’t go on because it’s not getting a signal that the igniter is on, so I can’t tell if the solenoid is working properly, but I have a hunch that it is. Turning the power to the furnace off and on will usually get the heat to cycle on normally. Please help me. Check your gas supply. We have UPS Ground, Next Day Air Saver, 2nd Day Air, 3 Day Select and UPS Sure Post shipping options in our shopping cart. If it is then this is the reason that you are going through so many limit switches. I would suggest making sure that the pressure switch is staying closed during ignition. I’m hoping I don’t have to replace the mother board in the unit, but before doing so, I want to be sure I’ve covered all the bases. HVAC for Beginners: Furnace Troubleshooting, Before You Call The Repairman... Heat Pro: Will I Heat My House Faster If I Get a Furnace that Is Twice as Large? The result is that your furnace will not have the gas needed to supply the warm air your asking of it. This is a big mystery to me. We carry a huge range of brand name items that can be purchased online. The main blower then comes on but at no point do I get any voltage to the ignitor. You should have between 110 and 125 volts AC. Have they all just been bad? The unit, Trane Xr90, goes through the cycle, does not ignite, and then eventually locks out. I turned the power off at the breaker. We have a post about this on the following page: https://arnoldservice.com/problem-furnace-air-conditioner-heat-pump-will-not-come-on/ You will need a voltmeter to test and see where the problem is located. Sometimes rollouts can be hidden like on the bottom of the blower housing. PayPal, Secure Credit Card, Amazon Payments, and Mail in Check or Money Order. I’m having this same problem with a Goodman furnace. I called the furnace company and they came for 15 mins and said theres nothing they could do its a propane issue, not enough gas pressure, I called propane company and they came out and said since the regulator was 30 yrs old they will replace it but thats not the issue, they installed the new one and it still shows 12 pounds, furnace goes thru its ignition plate gets hot and you can hear the regulator click and open and if you blow in there it will sometimes light but when its burning there is some yellow flames not a true blue flame, when it shuts off it wont come back on without some help. Great forum you have here and I can appreciate the help and advice you give out. With exhaust pipes handling up to 80 degrees of heat safely, less heat is wasted, … The safety controls would be the limit, rollouts and pressure switch. Yes, if the limit or any of your rollout switches are open then the open switches will not allow the ignitor to glow. Is it possible that the wrong igniter was used in my repair? I also checked continuity through the igniter by itself, and all the wires connected to it, all the way to the IFC mother board. So I power cycled it to reset and see what was going on. Hi Chris! Check around the furnace for signs of damage or burning. If you are not getting 110 to the ignitor then I would think that you have a control board problem and might need a new control board. Is the gas supply to the furnace open? Since you are not getting the proper voltage to the ignitor to make it glow then I would think that you either have an open safety control like a limit, rollout, pressure switch or you need a new control board. Hi John! I also checked for power to the gas solenoid, and I”m getting the 24V signal. Hi Tracy! If you do not hear the gas coming into the burners after the ignitor glows then this is probably a control board or a gas valve problem. 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