The phones remained active for nearly 10days after the pair went missing. I think someone followed the girls, caught them, killed them and brought them somewhere, hid them, so they were never found. I searched Google and I found the complete photo with the highest resolution possible. However, any link that requires any form of downloads, account creation or spammy activity, to view linked content, will not be permitted. Can anybody see that? Friends Kris Kremers (born August 9th, 1992) and Lisanne Froon (born September 24th, 1991) were two Dutch tourists who went missing under mysterious circumstances in early April of 2014 while on vacation in Panama, allegedly disappearing during a hike on the Pianista trail near Boquete.. I never received a response. This! But, Who took the photos on later dates? But then Im immediately confronted with conflicting evidence to suggest otherwise. There are shots of them exploring the jungle on April 1 which appear to show that all is well. Political corruption runs rampant, depending on the community, which has a cascading effect on law enforcement and local crime. Or is it all part of a cover-up? But after they waved goodbye to the local family for a mid-morning walk on April 1, 2014, they were never seen alive again. Why would that be? Yes theres a man to her left crouched down wearing beige/ beige/ brown. Two Dutch women who went missing in April in Panama are now confirmed dead, according to police and the women's families. Government corruption is the core of the problem. And the police know who it is, but will not say anything. I think this photo in particular is odd. OmgIm staring at this pic. Theyd probably just bury the camera in a deep hole or toss it in the river or ocean. And thinking its more possible that another person with a bleachbath and a Laptop/PC is wandering the jungle in Panama just shows me how little people nowadays know how dangerous the outdoors can be. Thats from her palm. But arent there the subsequent photos of Kris Kremers crossing the stream and so the developments may have occurred after this picture 505? What we do know is for 5 days after they disappeared, her phone was checked about a dozen times. Sue and Dennis Borries are pictured in an undated image. Thanks for your interest in the case and providing some input. Over the years, dozens of tourists like Agarwal, many of them foreign nationals, have gone missing while visiting the Parvati Valley in the state of Himachal Pradesh. Occums razor. Apart from the fact if she was photoshopped in this picture, i.m.o. Its worth mentioning how the police found out that someone tried unlocking Kris Kremers phone, but failed to do so. The simplest is for them to disappear. Thanks for some new information, excellent analysis of the photo! It must have been flowing in the river the police said. Perhaps the owner had an underlying influence/incentive to express conviction in his or her statement about the dog. Someone with darkish skin. Not lurking or following the girls or walking beside them; nothing. Thanks for pointing this out. There is no question thats what it is. Dutch investigators attempted to recover the file but didnt manage to retrieve any data, which suggests that the camera was plugged into a computer and the file was deleted rather than deleted from the camera. After exhaustive thought, my theory: First, respect to family, friends, and the good. Id love to know if these pics exsist. There's no telling how many ships or planes have "disappeared" in the Bermuda Triangle, but the U.S. Navy estimates that around 50 ships and 20 aircraft have gone missing there. The main/central support bar (branch?) The families of both Froonand Kremers also became concerned when they didn't get a usual check-in call. The sign actually looks like a door with light shining thru.thats crazy. Hi Nick, yes I would agree that the red object above is just decaying plant material. Kris has been unconscious for days. It was taken on the Continental Divide on April 1st, 2014 with the recorded time: 13:20:32. The backpack contained sunglasses, a camera, two cell phones,money,two bras, Froon's passport, and a water bottle. Looking carefully at her forehead you can see theres only the shade from a pole but her face is shaded. I cant say what it is, but it looks similar to an object, that can be seen in some of the nighttime photos, like in this one here. Both of these photos were photoshopped! Totally agree, Alexis. I know AMAZING explanition it is sad they are dead but my friend said they might be faking and Lisanne froon and kris kremer ate people to fake their bones but I think my friend is wrong. As we all know, hitting delete never actually deletes files therefore overwriting the files is the only effective method to cleaning old data. "For now, however, this finally marks the beginning of our grieving process and provides us with a path to closure.". How certain are we that they started at the trail head as we are told? She must therefore be in a house or building of some kind and therefore being kept prisoner at least for the 8 days before that photo was taken. If its part of the trail where people walk all the time I dont think something is up with this place. Where is YNW Melly? However, a lot of the photos seem to have been tampered with and one of them was even deleted from their camera, which could only have been done using a computer. But we need to be careful about the information we have. I look forward to learning more and you do valuable humane work helping other young adventurers. I dont see any confirmation from law enforcement either as to whether or not the white bones were tested for bleaching. Much, much more revealing. Keep the ideas flowing guys. That is why the poor often resort to vigilantism. Same goes for the hair photo, that people think might be a portion of a previous shot. P.S. This story struck my heart. Perhaps this is someone who had already joined them along the trail, and that only one of the girls was cool with the third party thats why the complete change from the first exuberant pictures. But even when a phone is locked after thee attempts the screen says emergency calls only. The backpack contained two pairs of sunglasses, $83 in cash, two bras, a water bottle - and importantly, Lisanne's passport. Cops quizzed locals, tour guides and other hikers, but only the photos and call logs provided a slither of evidence as to what had happened. Is the time that photo was taken known? Zooming in I swear its a person standing Hidden amongst the tangle with body paint. On April 3, 2014, authorities began an aerial search of the forests and an on-foot search ofBoquete. Have you looked closely at what Chris has labelled the insignia. I believe the backpack was placed near the river in order to indicate where the remains would be found (like a flag), and perhaps the backpack was provided in hopes to receive the reward money, and the location of the backpack meant that searches would move to a different location (potentially because the police were too close to the suspects at the time). I agree with you that what happened is not some misadventure. Its very disappointing to see the comment sections on this website to be allowed to turn into a very disrespectful and unfunny joke. Youre welcome to do that other places online. He has some resources at his disposal. There is nothing ominous or cause for concern in this particular pic. Shock and fear and protecting their family from pain was the goal. Hope there will be a reasonable explanation to everything one day. It needs to be stressed that while the AI upsampled image looks impressive, it cannot and does not recover any lost information. But there are a few holes in this particular theory. Hay incongruencias en fechas y horas de los testigos y de los registros de los telfonos y la cmara, pero lo que ms me ha inquietado es la foto 506. They make no sense in spite of the speculation. Yes, exactly. A group of tourists have gone missing in an infamous Russian mountain pass where nine people died under mysterious circumstances more than 60 years ago. In other pictures of her crossing water she is clearly dirty with her hair up. Thank you, Sue. is. The reason being, many people assume that shes leaning over and looking down at the rock before her. If so then those could tell some information. because why else would they have continued access to their phones for the next week? You can see a kind of nose and lips. https://photos.app.goo.gl/sLXepriuWAxz8t1R9 Whatever happened I believe was not from a man following them. In either case, maybe the rucksack was looted then later planted to avoid criminal implication. To the right of the body is a cross fashioned out of two poles, as is customary in Panama. Also mobile signals are better at night yet no calls were attempted. It is high noon and they have no way of telling which direction to go. https://postimg.cc/94q0cVhH. Progress is slow because at least one of them has a cut tendon. Jalisco authorities have launched an investigation in connection with the enforced disappearance of four tourists. Thank you for your comment. It is clear they contributed much to this by their actions. The insignia looks more like a darkish skinned face peering through a narrow window and observing the girls from behind some sort of screen. ), which doesnt look natural. Perhaps he gave some other persons a lift with the girls as is one of the stories out there. However, the perpetrators likely wanted the authorities to believe they were taken on the pianista trail. Im very curious Ive heard rumors but have never found verified information. I wonder why the girls didnt do any text messages even if they never got through? Also, where did learn that her brother mistakenly put the hair photo online? Stop trying to read too much into it. The remains of both women were found soon after that. She is NOT looking at the ground, but at the camera, with her face up. After investigating further, I discovered this article from the LA Times: https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-01-18/cult-anointed-by-god-kills-7-in-panama-jungle, The LA Times article states The sect arose after a villager returned to the community several months ago following a stint abroad, bringing back unusual religious beliefs with him.. They were lost very shortly after arriving at their destination, And then they made a huge mistake by heading due north to find their way back home and they should have been going to the southeast. I have a working theory of the predator (not a specific name). These nameless trails arent monitored or maintained by park rangers. So many questions and there is no clear starting place like a police report to read. In 2014 Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon, both from the Netherlands were traveling and exploring the Central American country of Panama. I never noticed this before They were friends from college, and were roommates then, so Lisanne had to have known Kris password as her best friend. Police searches have found nothing and now his mother is flying out to try to find him. as soon as u see 1 photoshopped pic u know something is wrong,, the bag turned up to keep the police from searching the jungle. Is this in dispute? In this case, I dont believe it was incompetence alone. Have you performed this same work on any of the other case photos? Still creepy though. We are dealing with history here. Does this take a high level of tech knowledge and a computer? Minha Querida menina. The supporting pole is diagonal from upper right to lower middle indicating the path is beginning to head down. The girls were no longer alive after April 2nd latest. They are really good, especially parts 3 and 4, which give a lot of information about the girls photos. From the story of Holger, it seems unlikely to imagine that the medical examiner overlooked the very serious condition of the cyclists remains. In all of the photos, there is zero evidence to suggest that the dog was truly with the girls on their hike into the forest. The following insight will make not make much sense to you if you dont know their story. There was one person that said that the dog left with them when they set out on their hike. Such a tragedy. Adventurers and travelers seek different experiences. Two journalists take the same hike the girls took. For this websites credibility I would strongly recommend more thorough moderation of peoples comments. https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CJKQMGxJ1Kc/XH7ld3XtSnI/AAAAAAAAjOg/kechIb5Cge8msf5kRVinBCrEjIiBCl7TwCLcBGAs/s1600/7reCdlm.jpg, Actually heres uncompressed upscaled original image (upscaled and color corrected with AI). He threatened them with a machete, and led them to a sacrificial alter. Teams investigatedfor 10 days; their hunt scaled down on April 14, 2014, though continued on for 10more weeks. I too noticed a nose and lips appearing. Where they went and who they talked to in order to build up an idea about what motivated them to take that fateful walk and what information could have taken them down the other side of the divide. I hope someday the family has answers. Im always reviewing their case and looking for answers. They had more than enough evidence and leads to solve the case but they ignored so much of the evidence. Very interesting.. Given thetimeline, authorities assumedat least one of the womenwas alive at thetime, five days into the search. Its so cold. The illusion of her being tied and in distress is nothing more than that. There are more answers out there that are still possible to gather. On March 14, 2014, students LisanneFroon and Kris Kremers traveled from the Netherlands to Panama, where they intended toassistlocal communities, volunteerwith children, learnSpanish, and relax a bit. Very interesting and completely changed my mind. At dawn the rain stops and she sets out. Had someone told them about something worth seeing? I wondered if it was a mirror or piece of metal and her reflection. But the blue was also something I noticed. Both of these 2 boys died shortly after, by murder or by accident. Why is no one talking about what appears to be a rock painting or a carving 3-4 feet in front of her? Fortunately, theres a lot of work still underway from private investigators and researchers. They added a caution sign after their disappearance for this exact reason. If you dont know the story, I recommend you visit the link at the bottom of this page. Maybe the girls did perish deep in the jungle, but that doesnt rule out somebody causing them to get lost. Also, the parents did not release all the images. Again NO SIGNAL! The theories go from accident to a crime to a combination of both. For example, I visited numerous hostels in Panama and the hostels that have dogs usually permit their dogs to roam freely outside of the house and to come and go as they please. It would be interesting to see a map of possible mobile blackspots because it seems where ever they were IF STATIONARY then they were on the extreme edge or reception dependent on atmospherics. View our online Press Pack. I suspect the food may have been left with them when they were abandoned by drug traffickers (who initially abducted them on April 1st) after Kris was hurt crossing the monkey bridge. Search parties are looking for her. Hi Chris, i uploaded the photo to show what i see. It could help shed more light onto the possible answer to the mystery. Just behind her tied hand area. However, according to the Daily Beast: We now know that more than two dozen other victims also were reported in the same region of Panama, including a young woman from the United States found murdered earlier this year. From 2017 . Why? Thanks and cheers. So why did they go on a trip on April 1st? Maybe you can find more answers about this horrible story. Their causes of death have never been determined. https://netherlandsnewslive.com/kris-and-lisanne-went-hiking-in-panama-but-never-left-the-jungle/151903/. After finding the women's phones, authorities now had alead. After this, can ANYONE IN THIS WORLD still doubt that this girl WOULD NOT HAVE WRITTEN OR PHONED HER MOTHER FOR TWO WEEKS when she also called the police 100 times? I think its equally powerful just to disprove the official theory. According to one web sleuth, the snaps taken on the camera a week after the girls vanished might have been taken with the flash to light up the path as they stumbled through the dark jungle. Kris Kremers, 21, and Lisanne Froon, 22, were hiking near the town of. Tourists are usually only targeted when something goes wrong or someone has a specific personal problem with foreigners or a subset of foreigners. If you look at her shirt, it appears to be red and white striped. Also, I do not know about the girls living situation and the relationship between the girls and the owner. But the call logs gave the cops a rough outline of the time the girls spent missing in the jungle. But she is definitely on a well-worn path. You have a good eye! It IS strange that the attempted SOS calls were so few. People have been there. December 20, 2022. But in the last year, several mass graves have been unearthed, revealing to the world a dark practice of human sacrifice which is thriving in the jungles of Panama. Apr 4, 2022 The number of international visitor arrivals in Panama surpassed the one million in 2021, after having plummeted to less than 700 thousand as a result of COVID-19 impact on tourism. In the first half of this year, tourist arrivals fell globally by more than 65 percent, with a near halt since Aprilcompared with 8 percent during the global financial crisis and 17 percent amid the SARS epidemic of 2003, according to ongoing IMF research on tourism in a post-pandemic world. All of it couldve just gone away.? There is what appears to be a well trodden, narrow path to the left of her which passes behind her and enters a very dark area at the back right, which could be the cave. The backpack being found with all its contents including money and not even dirty let alone wet after weeks of constant rain-found a day after the area was checked. Hence the bras and everything safely stacked in the backpack together both girls sunglasses and both girls phones (otherwise each girl would be carrying her own phone). US Is Europe's No. Does anyone know what the orange string is on the left of the photo? I am thinking while I am writing so please be patient with me. The link to the main page where I give complete details of the story: The True Story of Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon 2 Girls That Disappeared in Panama. The girls phone records later showed that they started making their initial distress calls on their cell phones approximately 2 hours and 45 minutes after their last known daytime photo (Photo 508). I know that its highly irregular for 17 foreigners to uproot their lives and relocate to the obscure jungles of Panama, especially for the purpose of sacrificing locals (whom are often Catholic). Her hands are *not* tied behind her back. Many hikers from all over the world disappear, fall, or suffer other fatal accidents while traveling - this could've happened to these women as well. That way, no downloads are necessary. Often, they. I hope you understand my english, im not a native speaker. They could have been a target early on. There are no public statistics. However having just seen a darkened and reddened photo (the one of the back of Kriss strawberry blonde hair) you can see, in the top left, a door frame at the bottom of which is a dark floor. Perhaps Kris fell first and Lisanne heard her scream and running in fell herself. Solvable: yes; but with each year that goes by less likely. Photo 509 was removed first. Here are some ideas Ive speculated about. Only returning them in hopes of getting the reward. I would also like to know the time that photo was taken that day. And remember that the legitimate photos we have came from Juan. Do you or anyone else that you know of have any idea where in Panama this photo was taken? As you say, it might be better if you were able to lay out the photos and see how they seem to fit together. Theres no evidence that animals scavenged the Holandesas., Panamanian IMELCF Forensic Anthropologist, This is from the Daily Beast interview with Jeremy Kryt titled: The Lost Girls, the Bones, and the Man in the Panama Morgue. See the State Department's travel website for the Worldwide Caution and Travel Advisories. Nothing more sinister than that. Just a few weeks later hes found dead. Around 2 oclock. The main areas of tourism in the country focus on business tourism, beaches, health and trade. I realize that its more interesting to make things more ominous than they are but this is a very sad case of two naive girls who were totally unprepared for their adventure and very sadly got lost, injured and succumbed to nature. Rocko Akira Clapp. Ive found that there are in fact two native type people visible in the night photos. Froon and Kremers were both in their early 20s; they traveled to Panama to work with children. My interest would be to see if its scientifically possible for the official theory to have happened. This is significant because image 508 was the last photograph of them where they werent in any trouble. https://photos.app.goo.gl/nVA1PDjjeVwULeo66. Being in a foreign country, in the tropical rainforests, especially for young curious minds, is a very unique experience. The last photo of Kris on the rocks doesnt appear to have any evidentiary value to me. The date read April 1, the day of their fateful hike. I dont know what Chris means by this, but at first I thought it was a wooden post sticking up from the ground and painted white at the top. If so, it would indicate that she had been kept alive for a few weeks or more. So I see men in the cave. Something happened between the morning and afternoon of the 5th because it was in the afternoon that a wrong pin was entered and subsequently every time thereafter. I cover a lot of these things in my other comprehensive article regarding Kris Kremers Bones: There are simply too many variables involved to oversimplify the case with the conclusion that they got lost.

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