I live in Indiana, and I have never seen a house with textured walls! I’m at the point where the builder wants an extra $10,000 to do flat walls. In my research I found a great alternative to smooth walls in a texture finish called Old World. It drives me CrAzY! Orange peel texturing is one of the most common basic wall textures, however, according to Modernize, you will need to⦠But the drywall was ripped from the removal of the beadboard. Empty a container of joint compound into a 5-gallon bucket or wheelbarrow. If youâre still reading, youâve decided to tackle this job yourself. We just primed and painted right over it! Did they texture in one layer and then were finished? Wall texture spray vs smooth. Thanks so much for taking us along for the ride Mandi!! It’s only occasionally used in high traffic commercial areas. Drywallers use this technique to hide an imperfect taping job, to give the wall a ⦠Does it save sanding time? Textured paints and creative application techniques (like sponging a lighter color over a darker one) will greatly reduce the visibility of imperfections since it is harder for the eye to identify the peaks a⦠If your walls are really ugly but you are not married to the idea that they must be flat and smooth, using a textured paint may be a better alternative to skim coating (you'll still need to patch up deeply gouged spots first but you won't have to make it perfect). I think what you have will look so good though and I can’t believe how huge and incredible it all looks! Drywall Finishing Levels . What is the reason for the texturing? It’s standard pretty much across Canada for smooth walls (a few minor exceptions I’m sure). See how there are little spots that the drywall peeks through? Organic, hand-painted wallpaper is still going strong in many design quarters. It is a great alternative to a smooth finish because it is subtle but easily hides wall and ceiling imperfections. I grew up in Southern California but I seem to remember the walls in my parents house as being smooth as well. The human eye picks up on dents and defects due primarily to the different angle of light reflection on the surface. Texturing, of any kind, seems like a lot of extra work to me. The texture thing is a big deal – it’s not only non-standard and super expensive to get a smooth finish, it’s hard to find a contractor who is good at it. I am looking to transform my walls which are currently smooth, painted, no texture. I grew up in Indiana and smooth was standard. Firstly the texture (amplified by goody paint) just seems too harsh and unwelcoming to me. See typical tasks and time to texture walls, along with per unit costs and material requirements. Aargh! Warped studs and joists are common here. I’m really into real lime and gypsum plasters so the fake look just doesn’t appeal to me. What I wouldn’t do for smooth walls! That being said, for your project and the era of your amazing restoration project, I think the old world finish will add a lot of charm and put back some of the history that your building has lost over the years. The Target (2) wallpaper is the thinnest and âflimsiestâ of the group, yet it too stuck to the wall without any issue. And here is the reasoning for it : even though texture hides imperfections, you still have to do 1st coat tape+mud and a 2nd coat to fill and feather. we are not at all prone to earthquakes, etc. You might ask at the paint store what colors that paint comes in or if the material that makes the paint textured can be added to wall colors. So looking forward to moving. In my case it will compliment my Travertine-walled kitchen to create a Tuscan-inspired space. It’s so interesting to learn that smooth walls are standard on the east coast and Canada. It looks somewhat like a hand troweled concrete garage floor that is not perfectly polished and you can just make out all the trowel marks. It does appear that they only do one coat of mud over screws/seams and then add this texutre stuff to avoid having to sand anything. Texture on walls and ceilings is a matter of personal taste and preference. How is this best applied and what materials/tools required? HATED it so I swore to never do that again. OR primer the whole wall with a high hide (slightly gritty) sheetrock primer to give the texture something to stick to, and then do a skim coat of joint topping over the whole wall with a short trowel and then paint it without sanding it...... A faux paint technique using a glaze on smooth wall would also get you a similar look from further away. 100% smooth. with textured walls, but all my other homes were older (circa 1900) with smooth texture. Since your walls are already painted, I would probably try something like this, but with a different technique than for this heavy look. Newer houses are built on a cement slab older houses have usually limestone foundations with jarrah flooring. It is much easier to to patch the drywall rather than having to match a texture someone else did. THANK GOODNESS. A dent distorts the plain of the wall, causing the light to bounce off in a way that the eye instantly identifies as an inconsistency. When they were done, they started sanding in area first done (as coat 2 is much thinner than coat 1 and dries quicker). Textured walls of any sort would likely deem a house practically un-sellable. Get fair costs for your SPECIFIC project requirements. Sometimes people like to replicate a "vintage or "old world" look. These finishes usually take patience and practice, and it is a different technique for each different look that are all called "imperfect". Beautiful walls at far less labor and cost. I have walls with an orange peel texture, and want to change the texture to either a light skip trowel (not too busy) or an imperfect smooth texture. I can attest to the fact that they just don’t typically do smooth walls out West and if they do it costs significantly more. I currently have textured walls and I hate them. I FEEL YOUR PAIN! In California (at least Northern Cal), "Imperfect Smooth" has become extermely popular. Your email address will not be published. Change wall texture from orange peel to skip trowel or imperfect smooth. 3700 sf- It costs 16k to have drywall hung with knockdown texture. It’s funny how there are so many differences. Can Mandi (or anyone else ) explain why you would put anything over drywall to make it textured and why that would cost significantly less money that having smooth walls? If you have your heart set on a very specific look that you have seen, it is probably only going to happen if you get ahold of the person who did it and have them do yours. And smooth walls were of course standard. Smooth wall when completely finished, is not actually perfectly smooth. Here in Vermont we just paint the drywall. You do need to do two layers on screws/seams and sand between coats/finished coat sand but it’s not as much work as having to cover the walls floor to ceiling with drywall mud. We used this texture on the walls and ceiling, you can see in the below picture where the mud is thinner (because it already dried) and how there is definitely texture, but its not everywhere. It also makes it very difficult to use painters tape because the color bleeds under unless you put on a layer of the adjacent color first (assuming you still have some). I literally do not know one person who has textured walls here! KY here. Not all of the Midwest. It actually seems like MORE work, not less. I have mostly smooth old-world texture in my house too & I LOOOVE it!! All we do is fill the seams (using a special mudding paddle to fill them) and cover the screw heads. I’m so glad I’m not the only one confused. Venetian Plaster Finish. The trick is sanding and smoothing down the texture so theres not too much "movement" when looking across the wall. Sand Swirl. Being from Michigan, my preference is for smooth walls, but alas I was not willing to spend at least twice (but probably more) to get them. Interesting right? ©2020 Vintage Revivals Site by Roundhouse Designs. The problem with uncompromisingly smooth drywall texture? If you are up to experimenting and just having something similar, you can probably DIY it. While perfectly smooth walls can look elegant, they also reveal every little imperfection in the drywall and paint job. In Indiana, where I grew up smooth is how it was done and it was not more expensive. A âpopcornâ ceiling is sometimes referred to as a âcottage cheeseâ texture and is very good at hiding imperfect or stained walls. One example I see is basically a level 4 drywall finish without sanding. When we finished the unfinished basement ourselves, I fought my husband and demanded smooth walls, which was extremely hard because we did them ourselves! The "look" we are going for is an old plaster wall. While I myself would not have selected that finish, once I had heard the 3-5x more I would have liked it. That seems to be a term without a specific definition that exists mostly in California. I’m in Oregon and we’re in the middle of a gut renovation (zero plumbing, electrical or drywall remains, and we’ve reframed pretty much everything). For what it sounds like you want, you might try a fairly thin texture PAINT. Is it to save the step of sanding? In our last house we asked for smooth in a room we redid, and ended up with inadvertent Old World texture… (As you know I’m trying to keep the Merc as time-period true as possible.) Since a ceiling texture can help hide imperfections, a smooth finish requires a lot more work. I didn’t realize it was a regional thing though! Yes! Love flat walls, and most importantly, FLAT ceilings (unpopcorned!). Then the final layer is sanded and buffed to give the surface a textured, yet completely smooth, appearance that adds extra dimension and artistic flair to the walls ⦠I want to apply an imperfect smooth texture, but not sure best material to use for "mud" and best way to apply. The layer of plaster makes the walls more durable against cracks and dents. So in 1928 when it was built, they used plaster walls with minimal texture. I much prefer smooth. Well, you are dealing with a vintage building and that finish works. Huh. Ugh. 3-5 times the cost for smooth however I am now getting excited about the old world. Northern Utah here – every house I’ve ever lived in (4, to date) has had smooth walls with just tape and screw patches. With smooth textured walls, if the walls have any sort of wave or bulge from the framing (which they most likely will cause boards aren’t always straight) that will still be there. The ‘knockdown’ and other textures are basically a faster way to achieve a uniform look without the time and skill it takes to properly tape, mud, and sand. Thus, spraying on texture is common practice around here. Our website lists the types of stucco texture that we have available for you to choose from, and showcases the texture types in photos. It starts with applying a mixture of plaster and marble dust in several thin layers. Smooth walls are standard here (NY) and it does take two layers of compound with sanding, but just on the joints and screw holes. I’ve always thought it was slightly tacky, and splurged on smooth walls in our big remodel here in Texas. I could get past that if it was functional but it isn’t! Yes! I also love smooth walls, but a little texture on the walls + 3 kids = a lot of time saved not having to repair drywall dings. This is so different to what we have here. All us kids got to switch bedrooms but my parents had us help drywall, mud, sand, and paint our individual rooms. Duh. Somewhat like a sanded down Venetian plaster. I am not a great finisher though! If so, it's likely that no great patience or skill would be required. here. Texturing involves a two-part rolling processâan initial application, then ⦠As the name implies, this wall texture resembles the soft bumps of an orange peel. ⦠It's durable and easily to clean making it a popular texture in ⦠See professionally prepared estimates for drywall texturing work. Gather your supplies. It dried overnight, sanded the next morning, did coat 2 on whole house. For texture, the texture compound is sprayed on the whole surface of the wall ((this is A LOT of material… the 1st major cost contributor) and then the material is “knocked down” or troweled to achieve the texture. In the long run, the texture costs more in material and labour due to the difficulty in finishing the final product, which counters the marginal time savings achieved from the actual texture install. I have never actually seen a completely smooth wall. Completely makes no sense to me why anyone would consider this to be a cheaper alternative. Ceilings are a different matter, though. We tape mud and sand the seams and screws then paint. Unfortunately, it just can’t be matched anymore so when I did an addition I had the drywall guys do a very light hawk and trowel. That just blows my mind. In older houses around here, only the ceilings have the texture. I’m an Interior Designer that lives in AZ, but is from Michigan. He often boasted how good he was as mudding that he didn’t need to sand which sounded crazy – but he was right! Our finisher knew that I wanted the walls almost smooth, so he did a couple of test spots so that I could see what my finish options were. On a practical note, at some point you’ll likely have to cut a hole in a wall to deal with a plumbing or electrical problem. Spec homes, tract homes and less skilled drywall crews always produce textured walls here. Skim coating is a texturing technique used to make a wall smooth. It's all in the flick of a brush, rag or roller, and the finish of the paint you use. All walls are I’m an architect, and my impression is that contractors of a higher tier will provide a smooth finish as a standard. My unpainted walls had feathered out seams (probabaly 11″ wide swath) and a strip over screws. In Texas, textured walls are the rule for low and medium-priced homes and are used in many higher-priced ones as well. Why on earth anyone wants textured walls escapes me so canât help. So the texture thing is shocking to me. Maybe it’s a Southern Utah/match the stucco kind of thing? Textured wall take twice as long to cut in and then will require 1st color coat to be sprayed for proper coverage (lots of prep to protect all other surfaces from over spray) and 2nd colour coat completed using a deep napp roller sleeve. Oh that’s weird to me! They used a slightly nappier roller for the primer than for the paint. What on earth? Just did a reno with new drywall. Here in California it is considered an "upgrade" for an imperfect smooth Sheetrock texture. Paint your imperfect walls to hide their flaws under a wash of new color -- or take some time to emphasize the age and wear on the walls to add character to a room. Yes it takes two-three coats with sanding in between for the seams, but that seems like sooo much less work to me than having to coat the entire wall evenly with mud. Check out my guide here!! Love those walls, though. For our renovation at the Merc I had my heart set (or so I thought) on perfectly smooth textured walls. Every home I have ever been to in WA state has textured walls. Wow, the most discussion ever on wall texture. If you look closely however, you can see the wall texture under the paper. Do they not have skilled mudders there? Things are different all over. Flat is your friend when wall ⦠I thought it was in this discussion, but can’t find it. We have a little wall between the kitchen and the dining room that was the perfect spot for a chalkboard wall. We will occasionally have a crack or “popped” screw head which causes a bulge but it isn’t typical. They are using so much more product giving you a texture? Seams (lol) to me that skim coating the wall for the texture would be more work! See typical tasks and time to texture drywall, along with per unit costs and material requirements. I’m in Canada (Alberta) as well and I don’t understand why the walls need texture at all. What are they doing differently? In at least the northern half, almost all walls have light/med orange peel or knockdown in the newest homes. We always had smooth walls (unfortunately with popcorn ceilings in our 1960’s house) in our houses/apartments, except our first house which was a 1940’s bungalow and did have a more plastered/textured wall finish. From what I’ve gathered from my contractor, finished houses NEVER get just tape and screw patches. None of them here have it at all! Same here in upstate NY, although I grew up in CA and then went to college in AZ, and orange peel walls were ubiquitous in both states. It seems like the same amount of work and a lot more mud! Textured interior walls (think: âorange peel,â popcorn, or swirled patterns) have a practical function, since the texture hides the signs of drywall installationâthat is, the taped seams where the sheets of drywall meetâand other imperfections⦠In desperate need of some advice, Sheet Rock +3 light weight compound. Swiss Coffee, of course. We offer stucco repair and wall plastering to our customers at an affordable price. I’m a Canadian contractor and home builder and have very rarely seen or installed textured wall finishes… It’s just not done. Our home is over 100 years old and the only place that hasn’t been textured over the years is our unfinished attic. Go with me on this. Tedious sure, but pretty straight forward. It just looks like the plasterer hasn’t practised properly ? That’s why textured walls are so common in developer-built housing; it’s quicker and cheaper, with less skilled laborers. It can also help with sound dampening because of the thick application. The issue is not just a lack of skill of the drywall finishers. I live in SE MI and in the 3 houses I have owned, 2 had texture. Any other suggestions besides spending $10,000 (or a suggested “light” Monterrey texture) would be greatly appreciated. Anyways, it’s such a relief when I go to visit my parents and see their smooth walls all over! That place is my dream! I’m completely shocked they would charge so much more for smooth walls! I always assumed texture was used to camo flaws in cheaper builds. Choices range from 3/16- to 1/4-inch nap for smooth surfaces like cabinet doors and high-gloss paints up to 1 1/4- to 1 1/2-inch nap for masonry wall surfaces. The walls in both of my new builds are smooth. Now, In Texas all the home have textured walls. Did you decide to gut that house–or buy another? I despise these textured finishes but I think the one you picked is the least offensive. Get fair costs for your SPECIFIC project requirements. Maybe a couple hundred dollars more but we did it in our house and the cost was not much different at all. Lightly textured Old World is also very popular in Utah right now which is very convenient for contractors because they can bring in less skilled workers to do the drywall. I’m really confused — I’m in Canada and we just fill/sand the seams and prime right over the drywall for a smooth surface, the drywall is never completely coated with mud. Only the 100 yr old house had smooth. I think your choice for the Merc works perfectly! http://www.behr.com/consumer/how-to/interior/how-to-create-a-venetian-plaster-finish, http://www.hgtv.com/design/decorating/design-101/decorative-paint-technique-venetian-plaster. I see that some of you recommend a drywall primer and then to paint. That’s California in a nutshell. Level 1: This level means that drywall joint tape has been embedded in joint compound, but nothing further has been done. For any of the hand-applied textures, lean a sheet or two of drywall against a wall, and put some plastic sheeting on the floor. Orange Peel (also called splatter or eggshell) looks like the skin of an orange. Try applying the compound to see what it ⦠This post shares the most popular styles, roadblocks we hit and a painting tip to make your texture appear smooth. Ferguson Bath, Kitchen & Lighting gallery. Not tons of man hours. We’ve drywalled a good portion of our home ourselves, with a smooth finish, and it seems like a texture would be a lot more work. I’ve never seen covering the entire wall to get a smooth finish. It may use more material, but the labor is a lot less. 270 locations nationwide! I have enough of a drywall background, where I can hang my own rock, tape it, and do some minor repairs around the house. A few things. They did touch ups and did a final sanding in morning. Yes it helps a lot, you may have smoothed out the texture, but the general shape isn’t going to change all that much. I didn’t even know textured walls were a thing until I moved to Texas and I have to say, I HATE them. I will now tell him I am not crazy, I just have east coast sense of style! East coaster here and I had no idea there was anywhere in the US where smooth walls weren’t standard! I would use a sand texture drywall covering, 9" heavy nap paint roller, dilute the mix a bit so it is heavy enough to stick but not runny, and do a complete covering. I think the less textured works better otherwise it might lean more toward a theme restaurant. However they would have to come three times, first coat, sand/second coat and then final sand. Check out my guide here!! I’m quite happy with just mudding screws and seams and then priming. . To each their own.) Inquiring minds want to know, what type of drywall texture do you have in your house? Really, I don’t think it was any different! I just don’t understand how smooth walls could end up costing more. The reason houses get texture walls is because its hard to find drywall finishers that can finish drywall without seeing drywall seems. Textured walls will require a heavier coat using up to 1/3rd more paint (which is an expensive product – 3rd cost contributor) to achieve complete coverage. My walls are highly textured and it drives me nuts. I wonder if it has to do with the amount of settling and shifting. Just do the tape and screws. Way to go! I’m also in Utah but in northern Utah. But i think the smooth walls look so much more elegant, and I am glad i got my way! I live in western PA, and we do the exact same thing. There are a lot of different types of drywall textures, and as I learned in the comments on this blog post, they are very regional. And how do you feel about it? I’m up in Canada as well, and I second the ‘just prime the drywall’. Its not popcorn so you can wet and scrap it off (which I am sure it is a terrible mess) we have ceilings that they swirl mud around so you some deep grooves, smoother grooves, points, and where the wall and ceiling meet you have a divot that isn’t straight so your not sure where to stop painting and they aren’t painted so you can’t tape the off (you pull off the texture) and when you go to paint they suck it up. Our recent-build (10yo) house in NC has smooth walls and ceilings. The thing I hate is the ceilings. Here (East Coast) they tape just the seams and drywall screws and everything is smooth so when the wall is sanded and ready for paint there is still tons of exposed drywall sort of like in the upper part of your photo. Smooth walls takes a little longer due to the sanding and it takes a little more expertise. Another key factor in the visibility of wall texture is the sheen of paint that you are using. Love how your walls turned out! My friend’s house has VERY textured walls in a swirl pattern. Currently, I am smoothing my walls. The cost to Texture Drywall starts at $1.02 - $1.24 per square foot, but can vary significantly with site conditions and options. Bosses are back at office bidding jobs and sending out inexperienced workers to get a job done. Everything not original to the house is smooth. I think the light texture on the walls works for what you are going for in the era and I think it will be more practical for your decorating style because it will be much easier to patch walls when you rotate your designs frequently. Shopping, Thrifting, and Other Project Plans. Another comment from Canada. From Canada and agreed that the texture thing on the walls is odd to me. There are a lot of different ways to finish drywall and I have researched all of them. Knock down finish is another popular finish here. Some of the walls in our house are crooked and the texture does nothing to hide it, and our house is less than 10 years old, so I don’t buy the argument that texture hides imperfections. Who would have thought you had to pay extra for what should be standard?! We have discovered that the original owner wallpapered almost every room in the house. Just tape and mud seams and screw holes. The Venetian texture is an extremely oldâand advancedâtechnique. Textures can help hide imperfections in the wall studs, ceiling joists, and drywall. Moving on, for smooth finish, a 3rd “finishing” coat is skimmed and feathered out 12″-14″ over all joints and a thin skim on fasteners. That’s where the Old World style kicks in. Wall texture is an important decision. Here in Minnesota we have smooth walls too – tape the seams, mud the screw holes, sanding as needed, then primer and paint. I recently bought a home built in 1923 in Seattle, and the drywall upstairs had been redone with a slight texture. We bought an old 1970’s house (that we love!) Picture your postpartum body in a super tight dress. My house is 97 years old and has plaster walls, but they’re just as smooth as drywall in our addition. “Popcorn” textured ceilings were the norm, but I think they are going out of style here. It is a harder wearing surface (the texture compound dries harder than joint fill compound). Katie, What.. wait… you’re not working with the general floor plan of the ranch house you reclaimed from a tenant? I thought the industry just moved away from texture! See my full guide to drywall and wall texture here! Except for the~2 inches by the ceiling where the plasterers were too lazy to coat? In conclusion, without talented craftsman, it costs more to accomplish something that should cost less. Finding the right paint for the job is SO important! Apparently it’s faster and cheaper for a builder to do things this way. Never see smooth! 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